[RTC List] Bringing Delta Airlines to the Eureka/Arcata Airport

Mon Dec 17 12:52:10 PST 2007

All,

  I for one would like to see a route that was less impacted by coastal fog
than SFO. I have driven more times from SF or SAC in the last 6 months than
is fun for anyone.  I can only hope that an additional carrier would make a
difference for those of us that travel out of the area. I know that it is
not a requirement for everyone but i suspect most business are in the
position that travelling out of the area is a periodic requirement and more
competition in the market would add flexibility and hopefully more
reliability to travel in an out of the county.
   I like to dream that maybe it would inspire United to open a route to
Denver and that would be a very happy day for me. I wonder how many people
just drive to SFO rather than deal with the ACV airport. I know several that
would not trust ACV with family travel alone travel for business.

Rob Beckerdite
On Dec 17, 2007 12:13 PM, Bob <bactbob at btbsoftware.com> wrote:

>  I have to agree with Jacqueline,
> Had to fly to NYC last week and ended up driving to Oakland to catch the
> flight.
> Delta is about my least favorite airline, but I can either move the
> business to a
> more accessible location or fly east instead of driving or flying south to
> go east.
>
> For those of you living the good life without obvious means of support,
> congratulations.
> For those of us who have to work for every penny, we need all the help we
> can get.
>
> Back when I was a student (many years ago), people would drive to San
> Francisco
> to get the selection (and prices) they needed.  We now have larger and
> better stores here,
> and yet the trees and ocean are still available, even with Costco,
> Safeway, Winco , the new Mall and even
> Home Depot in view (which is a bit overpriced for my tastes).
>
> Thanks
> ===============
> Bob Freeman
> www.btbsoftware.com
>
>  *From:* Debets, Jacqueline <JDebets at co.humboldt.ca.us>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 17, 2007 11:33 AM
> *To:* Michael Welch <mwelch at redwoodalliance.org> ; list at redwoodtech.org
>   *Subject:* Re: [RTC List] Bringing Delta Airlines to the Eureka/Arcata
> Airport
>
> Michael,
>
> You're right to care about our quality of life. It is one of our greatest
> economic and community assets. But it sounds like you are swallowing the
> "common fallacy"--growth or no growth. It is not a choice between "no
> growth" and the insane growth you describe. Our region has "grown"--in,
> jobs, wages and people--slowly and steadily for the last 20 years.
> Indications are that this slow growth will continue. There are not
> indications that it will go crazy any minute and we should bar the doors, as
> though we can. We are far too remote, too land constrained
>
> The goal that I think we can agree on is thoughtful "growth" or
> development that preserves and enhances our quality of life, which includes
> our people making a living, which has to involve participation in the
> regional, state, national and global economy.
>
> The people who use the airline the most are small business owners. The
> owners of small businesses--like Fire and Light, Holly Yashi, Humboldt
> Creamery, Cypress Grove, Loleta Cheese, Kokatat, C Crane Company, Marimba
> One, Streamguys, Healthware Solutions, a thousand more--need to reach their
> business clients and colleagues and they do it by FLYING to trade shows and
> meetings all over the country.
>
> This is also true for telecommuters, who live here and work for companies
> and customers elsewhere. According to EDD data, over 300 people in Humboldt
> County work outside the county in locations that you would have to fly
> to...LA, Contra Costa, Sacramento counties.
>
> These small business owners and telecommuters are choosing to live here
> and operate their business here for the same quality of life you enjoy. They
> are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in extra cost to be in this
> remote area.
>
> Adding the additional route with Delta will decrease those costs. It won't
> "attract" big companies to move here. The whole notion is a fallacy. But it
> will make it possible for the small businesses to expand one more product
> line, sell one more of their Humboldt-made products into the world, and to
> add one more job. That is a sustainable economy.
>
> It is only fear mongering to say that expanding airline service will cause
> "more crowded roads, more crime, more taxes, higher property costs, more
> local pollution, more low-paying service jobs, fewer natural resources, and
> a degradation of Humboldt County's natural beauty."
>
> We do need to be involved in making choices about how we grow. Going to
> extremes does not help the community build realistic, values based solutions
> to complex problems. Let's focus on the many ways we can make thoughtful
> choices for our future.
>
> Expanding airline routes is one low cost, high benefit, quality of life
> PRESERVING choice.
>
> j
>
> Jacqueline R. Debets
> Economic Development Coordinator
> HC-WIB Executive Director
> County of Humboldt, CA
> Prosperity Center
> 520 E Street, Eureka, CA 95501
> 707-445-7747 (Direct)
> 707-445-7745 (Main Office);  707-445-7219 (Fax)
> Email:  jdebets at co.humboldt.ca.us
> Humboldt County is a partner in the Prosperity! Network.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org
> [mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org]On Behalf Of Michael Welch
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:38 AM
> To: list at redwoodtech.org
> Subject: Re: [RTC List] Bringing Delta Airlines to the Eureka/Arcata
> Airport
>
>
> Once again, we are being fed a common fallacy. There is no connection
> between adding Delta to the airport roster and more jobs and prosperity.
> This is merely a convenience for a handful of people in our community.
>
> Historically, flights and airlines come and go in Humboldt County. Yes,
> Delta may come here, but they also will probably leave again when they find
> a more convenient place for their service. No business that properly does
> its homework will move to Humboldt based on a likely-to-be-temporary
> increase in airline service.
>
> Further, people are starting to realize that growth is not all that it was
> cracked up to be, and is no longer the sacred cow that it once was. What
> most in this community want is quality of life, which is really why we are
> here instead of the kinds of places that have lots of flights and unlimited
> growth. Our quality of life will not be increased by growth, but it can be
> maintained by keeping growth to a minimum. Growth translates to often
> excessive prosperity for a few, but the rest of us end up with more crowded
> roads, more crime, more taxes, higher property costs, more local pollution,
> more low-paying service jobs, fewer natural resources, and a degradation of
> Humboldt County's natural beauty.
>
> Finally, and most important, in this day and age of global warming, the
> absolute worst form of transportation in terms of pollutants per passenger
> miles is airline travel.
>
> C'mon, gang, we do not need another airline here. We do not need another
> connection to another hub. Just say "no" to Delta, just as if it is a drug
> being offered by dealers of unfettered growth.
>
> CrawfordCA at aol.com wrote at 12:40 PM 12/16/2007:
>
> >To the RTC list  ...
> >
> >If this is not of interest to you, I apologize for the intrusion. We as
> individuals and businesses have a crucial deadline coming up 12/20 to pledge
> a minimum of $2000 each in air travel as an incentive to attract Delta
> Airlines to begin twice-daily service from Eureka/Arcata to Salt Lake City
> (a Delta hub).
> >
> >You do not need to write a check or provide credit card billing right
> now  ...  just fill out the attached form and fax it to Madelin Holtcamp at
> the Redwood Region Economic Development Commission (FAX = 445-9652).  This
> is a creative financing promotion used successfully by the aviation
> consulting firm that RREDC is using to create better travel options for
> local individuals and businesses. See the description below for more
> information.
> >
> >If you've done ANY air travel in and out of Eureka/Arcata, you'll know
> how uncertain connections to other cities can be --  this attributable more
> than 50% of the time to weather and air traffic in San Francisco as it is to
> our own local fog, wind and rain. A connection to another city, especially a
> hub city such as Salt Lake City, means much more than one added flying
> option. It means better business opportunities for the North Coast.
> >
> >Give your friends, neighbors and co-workers a Christmas present they can
> really use  ...  jobs and prosperity  ...  by pledging your $2000 or more
> today.
> >
> >Thanks for your consideration, and Merry Christmas !!
> >
> >Chris Crawford
> ><http://www.justiceserved.com/>www.justiceserved.com<http://www.justiceserved.com/%3Ewww.justiceserved.com>
> >707-443-1944
> >
> >
> >
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (From Gregg Foster, with slight edits)
> >
> >Dear friend of the Arcata-Eureka Airport:
> >
> >ItâEUR(tm)s probably been awhile since youâEUR(tm)ve heard anything new
> about efforts to attract a new airline to our local airport.  Briefly, while
> I was at RREDC, we initiated a project to recruit new air service.   Our top
> priorities were to either attract a new airline or to secure a new eastern
> destination.    Ideally, the new service would serve both priorities.
> >
> >On October 3, I joined Airports Manager Jacquelyn Hulsey, Public Works
> Director Tom Mattson, and Joseph Pickering from RREDCâEUR(tm)s consultant
> Mead and Hunt in a presentation to Delta Airlines officials at their
> headquarters in Atlanta.  Our purpose in meeting with them was to discuss
> their interest in initiating service from our airport to their western hub
> in Salt Lake City.  In short, our meeting with them went very well.  They
> have expressed their strong interest in starting twice per day jet service
> to Salt Lake City.
> >
> >Why are we interested in Salt Lake City?  Currently, Delta Airlines
> offers 373 peak day departures to 115 non-stop destinations from Salt Lake
> City.  Their plan is to increase this to 122 non-stop destinations by Summer
> 2008.  The new service that we are targeting to twice per day service on 50
> seat regional jets.
> >
> >However, in expressing their interest, Delta is looking for local
> incentives and indication of support.   They are being actively recruited by
> a number of jurisdictions who are placing real financial incentives on the
> table.  To secure this service, then, we must also offer financial
> incentives to Delta.
> >
> >In short, we will need to produce the following:
> >
> >1.      $500,000 in revenue guarantees.  This money will be held in trust
> locally and would only be used to offset any short-term losses that Delta
> might incur.  Clear thresholds must be met by Delta to get access to these
> dollars and if revenue exceeds those thresholds, we will not have to provide
> the revenue support.
> >
> >2.       $500,000 in pre-purchased travel through an Air Travel Bank(tm)
> (ATB).  Our consultant, Mead and Hunt, pioneered the use of ATBs and has
> been successful in using them to start service in other cities.  Your
> investment in the ATB will be good for purchases of any Delta Airline flight
> for one year following the commencement of service from our airport.  If
> service does not start, then your investment will be returned.
> >
> >I have spoken to literally hundreds of people over the past few years
> about the need for new service and I believe that the goals set out here can
> be achieved.  Delta has given us a very short timeline, much shorter that I
> had anticipated.  This is actually good news, as it indicates that
> theyâEUR(tm)d could start this service as early as mid 2008.
> >
> >We need to move fast if we are to succeed.  Please respond to RREDC
> Executive Director Madelin Holtkamp at <
> mailto:rredc at northcoast.com>rredc at northcoast.com<rredc at northcoast.com%3Erredc at northcoast.com>or 445-9651 (no later than 12/20/07) to let her know (you are) willing and
> able to support our efforts.
> >
> >Finally, thanks for your support of this important effort to connect our
> region to the rest of the world.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ END
> >
> >
> >
> >
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