[RTC List] Bringing Delta Airlines to the Eureka/Arcata Airport
David C. Thewlis
dthewlis at dcta.com
Mon Dec 17 14:17:47 PST 2007
I agree about Denver.
At one point a few years ago United/Skywest were seriously talking about
direct service to/from Denver and it looked as though it was going to
happen. I'm not sure what went wrong. Most of my travel is to the East
or Northeast so Delta to SLC doesn't help much; I'd certainly prefer a
United link that didn't go through SFO unless I'm going international.
About six or seven years ago United had service to/from Portland; that
was very handy but I don't think they publicized it because there was
never anyone much on the flights.
Dave Thewlis
Robert Beckerdite wrote:
> All,
>
> I for one would like to see a route that was less impacted by
> coastal fog than SFO. I have driven more times from SF or SAC in the
> last 6 months than is fun for anyone. I can only hope that an
> additional carrier would make a difference for those of us that travel
> out of the area. I know that it is not a requirement for everyone but
> i suspect most business are in the position that travelling out of the
> area is a periodic requirement and more competition in the market
> would add flexibility and hopefully more reliability to travel in an
> out of the county.
> I like to dream that maybe it would inspire United to open a route
> to Denver and that would be a very happy day for me. I wonder how many
> people just drive to SFO rather than deal with the ACV airport. I know
> several that would not trust ACV with family travel alone travel for
> business.
>
> Rob Beckerdite
> On Dec 17, 2007 12:13 PM, Bob <bactbob at btbsoftware.com
> <mailto:bactbob at btbsoftware.com>> wrote:
>
> I have to agree with Jacqueline,
> Had to fly to NYC last week and ended up driving to Oakland to
> catch the flight.
> Delta is about my least favorite airline, but I can either move
> the business to a
> more accessible location or fly east instead of driving or flying
> south to go east.
>
> For those of you living the good life without obvious means of
> support, congratulations.
> For those of us who have to work for every penny, we need all the
> help we can get.
>
> Back when I was a student (many years ago), people would drive to
> San Francisco
> to get the selection (and prices) they needed. We now have larger
> and better stores here,
> and yet the trees and ocean are still available, even with Costco,
> Safeway, Winco , the new Mall and even
> Home Depot in view (which is a bit overpriced for my tastes).
>
> Thanks
> ===============
> Bob Freeman
> www.btbsoftware.com <http://www.btbsoftware.com/>
>
> *From:* Debets, Jacqueline <mailto:JDebets at co.humboldt.ca.us>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 17, 2007 11:33 AM
> *To:* Michael Welch <mailto:mwelch at redwoodalliance.org> ;
> list at redwoodtech.org <mailto:list at redwoodtech.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [RTC List] Bringing Delta Airlines to the
> Eureka/Arcata Airport
>
> Michael,
>
> You're right to care about our quality of life. It is one of our
> greatest economic and community assets. But it sounds like you are
> swallowing the "common fallacy"--growth or no growth. It is not a
> choice between "no growth" and the insane growth you describe. Our
> region has "grown"--in, jobs, wages and people--slowly and
> steadily for the last 20 years. Indications are that this slow
> growth will continue. There are not indications that it will go
> crazy any minute and we should bar the doors, as though we can. We
> are far too remote, too land constrained
>
> The goal that I think we can agree on is thoughtful "growth" or
> development that preserves and enhances our quality of life, which
> includes our people making a living, which has to involve
> participation in the regional, state, national and global economy.
>
> The people who use the airline the most are small business owners.
> The owners of small businesses--like Fire and Light, Holly Yashi,
> Humboldt Creamery, Cypress Grove, Loleta Cheese, Kokatat, C Crane
> Company, Marimba One, Streamguys, Healthware Solutions, a thousand
> more--need to reach their business clients and colleagues and they
> do it by FLYING to trade shows and meetings all over the country.
>
> This is also true for telecommuters, who live here and work for
> companies and customers elsewhere. According to EDD data, over 300
> people in Humboldt County work outside the county in locations
> that you would have to fly to...LA, Contra Costa, Sacramento
> counties.
>
> These small business owners and telecommuters are choosing to live
> here and operate their business here for the same quality of life
> you enjoy. They are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in
> extra cost to be in this remote area.
>
> Adding the additional route with Delta will decrease those costs.
> It won't "attract" big companies to move here. The whole notion is
> a fallacy. But it will make it possible for the small businesses
> to expand one more product line, sell one more of their
> Humboldt-made products into the world, and to add one more job.
> That is a sustainable economy.
>
> It is only fear mongering to say that expanding airline service
> will cause "more crowded roads, more crime, more taxes, higher
> property costs, more local pollution, more low-paying service
> jobs, fewer natural resources, and a degradation of Humboldt
> County's natural beauty."
>
> We do need to be involved in making choices about how we grow.
> Going to extremes does not help the community build realistic,
> values based solutions to complex problems. Let's focus on the
> many ways we can make thoughtful choices for our future.
>
> Expanding airline routes is one low cost, high benefit, quality of
> life PRESERVING choice.
>
> j
>
> Jacqueline R. Debets
> Economic Development Coordinator
> HC-WIB Executive Director
> County of Humboldt, CA
> Prosperity Center
> 520 E Street, Eureka, CA 95501
> 707-445-7747 (Direct)
> 707-445-7745 (Main Office); 707-445-7219 (Fax)
> Email: jdebets at co.humboldt.ca.us <mailto:jdebets at co.humboldt.ca.us>
> Humboldt County is a partner in the Prosperity! Network.
>
>
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> [mailto: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org
> <mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org>]On Behalf Of Michael Welch
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:38 AM
> To: list at redwoodtech.org <mailto:list at redwoodtech.org>
> Subject: Re: [RTC List] Bringing Delta Airlines to the Eureka/Arcata
> Airport
>
>
> Once again, we are being fed a common fallacy. There is no
> connection between adding Delta to the airport roster and more
> jobs and prosperity. This is merely a convenience for a handful of
> people in our community.
>
> Historically, flights and airlines come and go in Humboldt County.
> Yes, Delta may come here, but they also will probably leave again
> when they find a more convenient place for their service. No
> business that properly does its homework will move to Humboldt
> based on a likely-to-be-temporary increase in airline service.
>
> Further, people are starting to realize that growth is not all
> that it was cracked up to be, and is no longer the sacred cow that
> it once was. What most in this community want is quality of life,
> which is really why we are here instead of the kinds of places
> that have lots of flights and unlimited growth. Our quality of
> life will not be increased by growth, but it can be maintained by
> keeping growth to a minimum. Growth translates to often excessive
> prosperity for a few, but the rest of us end up with more crowded
> roads, more crime, more taxes, higher property costs, more local
> pollution, more low-paying service jobs, fewer natural resources,
> and a degradation of Humboldt County's natural beauty.
>
> Finally, and most important, in this day and age of global
> warming, the absolute worst form of transportation in terms of
> pollutants per passenger miles is airline travel.
>
> C'mon, gang, we do not need another airline here. We do not need
> another connection to another hub. Just say "no" to Delta, just as
> if it is a drug being offered by dealers of unfettered growth.
>
> CrawfordCA at aol.com <mailto:CrawfordCA at aol.com> wrote at 12:40 PM
> 12/16/2007:
>
> >To the RTC list ...
> >
> >If this is not of interest to you, I apologize for the intrusion.
> We as individuals and businesses have a crucial deadline coming up
> 12/20 to pledge a minimum of $2000 each in air travel as an
> incentive to attract Delta Airlines to begin twice-daily service
> from Eureka/Arcata to Salt Lake City (a Delta hub).
> >
> >You do not need to write a check or provide credit card billing
> right now ... just fill out the attached form and fax it to
> Madelin Holtcamp at the Redwood Region Economic Development
> Commission (FAX = 445-9652). This is a creative financing
> promotion used successfully by the aviation consulting firm that
> RREDC is using to create better travel options for local
> individuals and businesses. See the description below for more
> information.
> >
> >If you've done ANY air travel in and out of Eureka/Arcata, you'll
> know how uncertain connections to other cities can be -- this
> attributable more than 50% of the time to weather and air traffic
> in San Francisco as it is to our own local fog, wind and rain. A
> connection to another city, especially a hub city such as Salt
> Lake City, means much more than one added flying option. It means
> better business opportunities for the North Coast.
> >
> >Give your friends, neighbors and co-workers a Christmas present
> they can really use ... jobs and prosperity ... by pledging
> your $2000 or more today.
> >
> >Thanks for your consideration, and Merry Christmas !!
> >
> >Chris Crawford
> ><http://www.justiceserved.com/>www.justiceserved.com
> <http://www.justiceserved.com/%3Ewww.justiceserved.com>
> >707-443-1944
> >
> >
> >
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (From Gregg Foster, with slight edits)
> >
> >Dear friend of the Arcata-Eureka Airport:
> >
> >ItâEUR(tm)s probably been awhile since youâEUR(tm)ve heard
> anything new about efforts to attract a new airline to our local
> airport. Briefly, while I was at RREDC, we initiated a project to
> recruit new air service. Our top priorities were to either
> attract a new airline or to secure a new eastern destination.
> Ideally, the new service would serve both priorities.
> >
> >On October 3, I joined Airports Manager Jacquelyn Hulsey, Public
> Works Director Tom Mattson, and Joseph Pickering from
> RREDCâEUR(tm)s consultant Mead and Hunt in a presentation to Delta
> Airlines officials at their headquarters in Atlanta. Our purpose
> in meeting with them was to discuss their interest in initiating
> service from our airport to their western hub in Salt Lake City.
> In short, our meeting with them went very well. They have
> expressed their strong interest in starting twice per day jet
> service to Salt Lake City.
> >
> >Why are we interested in Salt Lake City? Currently, Delta
> Airlines offers 373 peak day departures to 115 non-stop
> destinations from Salt Lake City. Their plan is to increase this
> to 122 non-stop destinations by Summer 2008. The new service that
> we are targeting to twice per day service on 50 seat regional jets.
> >
> >However, in expressing their interest, Delta is looking for local
> incentives and indication of support. They are being actively
> recruited by a number of jurisdictions who are placing real
> financial incentives on the table. To secure this service, then,
> we must also offer financial incentives to Delta.
> >
> >In short, we will need to produce the following:
> >
> >1. $500,000 in revenue guarantees. This money will be held
> in trust locally and would only be used to offset any short-term
> losses that Delta might incur. Clear thresholds must be met by
> Delta to get access to these dollars and if revenue exceeds those
> thresholds, we will not have to provide the revenue support.
> >
> >2. $500,000 in pre-purchased travel through an Air Travel
> Bank(tm) (ATB). Our consultant, Mead and Hunt, pioneered the use
> of ATBs and has been successful in using them to start service in
> other cities. Your investment in the ATB will be good for
> purchases of any Delta Airline flight for one year following the
> commencement of service from our airport. If service does not
> start, then your investment will be returned.
> >
> >I have spoken to literally hundreds of people over the past few
> years about the need for new service and I believe that the goals
> set out here can be achieved. Delta has given us a very short
> timeline, much shorter that I had anticipated. This is actually
> good news, as it indicates that theyâEUR(tm)d could start this
> service as early as mid 2008.
> >
> >We need to move fast if we are to succeed. Please respond to
> RREDC Executive Director Madelin Holtkamp at
> <mailto:rredc at northcoast.com>rredc at northcoast.com
> <mailto:rredc at northcoast.com%3Erredc at northcoast.com> or 445-9651
> (no later than 12/20/07) to let her know (you are) willing and
> able to support our efforts.
> >
> >Finally, thanks for your support of this important effort to
> connect our region to the rest of the world.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ END
> >
> >
> >
> >
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