[RTC List] Bringing Delta Airlines to the Eureka/Arcata Airport
Pat Bitton
pat_bitton at eurestopartners.com
Mon Dec 17 17:48:33 PST 2007
Rob:
As my understanding is that I am required to pledge $2000 to support the
cause and that it seems highly unlikely I will be able to use this money for
flights, I'm afraid I will have to decline. I wish all of you the best of
luck, but as a self-employed individual, spending $2000 to help other
businesses doesn't add up economically for me. Also, I have to say that the
last thing I need is yet another credit card and associated snowstorm of
direct marketing paper coming through my door.
Pat.
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From: Arkley, Rob [mailto:RArkley at snsc.com]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 4:58 PM
To: Pat Bitton; Robert Beckerdite; Bob
Cc: list at redwoodtech.org
Subject: RE: [RTC List] Bringing Delta Airlines to the Eureka/Arcata Airport
Dear Pat,
Are you willing to support the choice, albeit an airline that you will
not use? In other words, even though you will not use it, do you support
giving the rest of us the option?
vty,
Rob
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From: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org [mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org] On
Behalf Of Pat Bitton
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 4:54 PM
To: 'Robert Beckerdite'; 'Bob'
Cc: list at redwoodtech.org
Subject: Re: [RTC List] Bringing Delta Airlines to the Eureka/Arcata Airport
I'm always in favor of more choice but I personally can't financially
support bringing Delta here because it is more expensive for me to get to
client sites in cities served by Delta (Atlanta, Prague) than using the
United network now. I'd like to see more flights to LA to avoid the weather
issues Robert cites - that Horizon run is pretty good if you're not in a
major hurry.
Pat Bitton
Partner, Euresto Partners
Strategic Sales & Marketing for Technology Startups
www.eurestopartners.com
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From: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org [mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org] On
Behalf Of Robert Beckerdite
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:52 PM
To: Bob
Cc: list at redwoodtech.org
Subject: Re: [RTC List] Bringing Delta Airlines to the Eureka/Arcata Airport
All,
I for one would like to see a route that was less impacted by coastal fog
than SFO. I have driven more times from SF or SAC in the last 6 months than
is fun for anyone. I can only hope that an additional carrier would make a
difference for those of us that travel out of the area. I know that it is
not a requirement for everyone but i suspect most business are in the
position that travelling out of the area is a periodic requirement and more
competition in the market would add flexibility and hopefully more
reliability to travel in an out of the county.
I like to dream that maybe it would inspire United to open a route to
Denver and that would be a very happy day for me. I wonder how many people
just drive to SFO rather than deal with the ACV airport. I know several that
would not trust ACV with family travel alone travel for business.
Rob Beckerdite
On Dec 17, 2007 12:13 PM, Bob <bactbob at btbsoftware.com> wrote:
I have to agree with Jacqueline,
Had to fly to NYC last week and ended up driving to Oakland to catch the
flight.
Delta is about my least favorite airline, but I can either move the business
to a
more accessible location or fly east instead of driving or flying south to
go east.
For those of you living the good life without obvious means of support,
congratulations.
For those of us who have to work for every penny, we need all the help we
can get.
Back when I was a student (many years ago), people would drive to San
Francisco
to get the selection (and prices) they needed. We now have larger and
better stores here,
and yet the trees and ocean are still available, even with Costco, Safeway,
Winco , the new Mall and even
Home Depot in view (which is a bit overpriced for my tastes).
Thanks
===============
Bob Freeman
www.btbsoftware.com <http://www.btbsoftware.com/>
From: Debets, Jacqueline <mailto:JDebets at co.humboldt.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:33 AM
To: Michael Welch <mailto:mwelch at redwoodalliance.org> ;
list at redwoodtech.org <mailto:list at redwoodtech.org>
Subject: Re: [RTC List] Bringing Delta Airlines to the Eureka/Arcata Airport
Michael,
You're right to care about our quality of life. It is one of our greatest
economic and community assets. But it sounds like you are swallowing the
"common fallacy"--growth or no growth. It is not a choice between "no
growth" and the insane growth you describe. Our region has "grown"--in,
jobs, wages and people--slowly and steadily for the last 20 years.
Indications are that this slow growth will continue. There are not
indications that it will go crazy any minute and we should bar the doors, as
though we can. We are far too remote, too land constrained
The goal that I think we can agree on is thoughtful "growth" or development
that preserves and enhances our quality of life, which includes our people
making a living, which has to involve participation in the regional, state,
national and global economy.
The people who use the airline the most are small business owners. The
owners of small businesses--like Fire and Light, Holly Yashi, Humboldt
Creamery, Cypress Grove, Loleta Cheese, Kokatat, C Crane Company, Marimba
One, Streamguys, Healthware Solutions, a thousand more--need to reach their
business clients and colleagues and they do it by FLYING to trade shows and
meetings all over the country.
This is also true for telecommuters, who live here and work for companies
and customers elsewhere. According to EDD data, over 300 people in Humboldt
County work outside the county in locations that you would have to fly
to...LA, Contra Costa, Sacramento counties.
These small business owners and telecommuters are choosing to live here and
operate their business here for the same quality of life you enjoy. They are
spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in extra cost to be in this remote
area.
Adding the additional route with Delta will decrease those costs. It won't
"attract" big companies to move here. The whole notion is a fallacy. But it
will make it possible for the small businesses to expand one more product
line, sell one more of their Humboldt-made products into the world, and to
add one more job. That is a sustainable economy.
It is only fear mongering to say that expanding airline service will cause
"more crowded roads, more crime, more taxes, higher property costs, more
local pollution, more low-paying service jobs, fewer natural resources, and
a degradation of Humboldt County's natural beauty."
We do need to be involved in making choices about how we grow. Going to
extremes does not help the community build realistic, values based solutions
to complex problems. Let's focus on the many ways we can make thoughtful
choices for our future.
Expanding airline routes is one low cost, high benefit, quality of life
PRESERVING choice.
j
Jacqueline R. Debets
Economic Development Coordinator
HC-WIB Executive Director
County of Humboldt, CA
Prosperity Center
520 E Street, Eureka, CA 95501
707-445-7747 (Direct)
707-445-7745 (Main Office); 707-445-7219 (Fax)
Email: jdebets at co.humboldt.ca.us <mailto:jdebets at co.humboldt.ca.us>
Humboldt County is a partner in the Prosperity! Network.
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From: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org
[mailto: <mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org>
list-bounces at redwoodtech.org]On Behalf Of Michael Welch
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:38 AM
To: list at redwoodtech.org
Subject: Re: [RTC List] Bringing Delta Airlines to the Eureka/Arcata
Airport
Once again, we are being fed a common fallacy. There is no connection
between adding Delta to the airport roster and more jobs and prosperity.
This is merely a convenience for a handful of people in our community.
Historically, flights and airlines come and go in Humboldt County. Yes,
Delta may come here, but they also will probably leave again when they find
a more convenient place for their service. No business that properly does
its homework will move to Humboldt based on a likely-to-be-temporary
increase in airline service.
Further, people are starting to realize that growth is not all that it was
cracked up to be, and is no longer the sacred cow that it once was. What
most in this community want is quality of life, which is really why we are
here instead of the kinds of places that have lots of flights and unlimited
growth. Our quality of life will not be increased by growth, but it can be
maintained by keeping growth to a minimum. Growth translates to often
excessive prosperity for a few, but the rest of us end up with more crowded
roads, more crime, more taxes, higher property costs, more local pollution,
more low-paying service jobs, fewer natural resources, and a degradation of
Humboldt County's natural beauty.
Finally, and most important, in this day and age of global warming, the
absolute worst form of transportation in terms of pollutants per passenger
miles is airline travel.
C'mon, gang, we do not need another airline here. We do not need another
connection to another hub. Just say "no" to Delta, just as if it is a drug
being offered by dealers of unfettered growth.
CrawfordCA at aol.com wrote at 12:40 PM 12/16/2007:
>To the RTC list ...
>
>If this is not of interest to you, I apologize for the intrusion. We as
individuals and businesses have a crucial deadline coming up 12/20 to pledge
a minimum of $2000 each in air travel as an incentive to attract Delta
Airlines to begin twice-daily service from Eureka/Arcata to Salt Lake City
(a Delta hub).
>
>You do not need to write a check or provide credit card billing right now
... just fill out the attached form and fax it to Madelin Holtcamp at the
Redwood Region Economic Development Commission (FAX = 445-9652). This is a
creative financing promotion used successfully by the aviation consulting
firm that RREDC is using to create better travel options for local
individuals and businesses. See the description below for more information.
>
>If you've done ANY air travel in and out of Eureka/Arcata, you'll know how
uncertain connections to other cities can be -- this attributable more than
50% of the time to weather and air traffic in San Francisco as it is to our
own local fog, wind and rain. A connection to another city, especially a hub
city such as Salt Lake City, means much more than one added flying option.
It means better business opportunities for the North Coast.
>
>Give your friends, neighbors and co-workers a Christmas present they can
really use ... jobs and prosperity ... by pledging your $2000 or more
today.
>
>Thanks for your consideration, and Merry Christmas !!
>
>Chris Crawford
><http://www.justiceserved.com/
<http://www.justiceserved.com/%3Ewww.justiceserved.com>
>www.justiceserved.com
>707-443-1944
>
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (From Gregg Foster, with slight edits)
>
>Dear friend of the Arcata-Eureka Airport:
>
>ItâEUR(tm)s probably been awhile since youâEUR(tm)ve heard anything new
about efforts to attract a new airline to our local airport. Briefly, while
I was at RREDC, we initiated a project to recruit new air service. Our top
priorities were to either attract a new airline or to secure a new eastern
destination. Ideally, the new service would serve both priorities.
>
>On October 3, I joined Airports Manager Jacquelyn Hulsey, Public Works
Director Tom Mattson, and Joseph Pickering from RREDCâEUR(tm)s consultant
Mead and Hunt in a presentation to Delta Airlines officials at their
headquarters in Atlanta. Our purpose in meeting with them was to discuss
their interest in initiating service from our airport to their western hub
in Salt Lake City. In short, our meeting with them went very well. They
have expressed their strong interest in starting twice per day jet service
to Salt Lake City.
>
>Why are we interested in Salt Lake City? Currently, Delta Airlines offers
373 peak day departures to 115 non-stop destinations from Salt Lake City.
Their plan is to increase this to 122 non-stop destinations by Summer 2008.
The new service that we are targeting to twice per day service on 50 seat
regional jets.
>
>However, in expressing their interest, Delta is looking for local
incentives and indication of support. They are being actively recruited by
a number of jurisdictions who are placing real financial incentives on the
table. To secure this service, then, we must also offer financial
incentives to Delta.
>
>In short, we will need to produce the following:
>
>1. $500,000 in revenue guarantees. This money will be held in trust
locally and would only be used to offset any short-term losses that Delta
might incur. Clear thresholds must be met by Delta to get access to these
dollars and if revenue exceeds those thresholds, we will not have to provide
the revenue support.
>
>2. $500,000 in pre-purchased travel through an Air Travel Bank(tm)
(ATB). Our consultant, Mead and Hunt, pioneered the use of ATBs and has
been successful in using them to start service in other cities. Your
investment in the ATB will be good for purchases of any Delta Airline flight
for one year following the commencement of service from our airport. If
service does not start, then your investment will be returned.
>
>I have spoken to literally hundreds of people over the past few years about
the need for new service and I believe that the goals set out here can be
achieved. Delta has given us a very short timeline, much shorter that I had
anticipated. This is actually good news, as it indicates that theyâEUR(tm)d
could start this service as early as mid 2008.
>
>We need to move fast if we are to succeed. Please respond to RREDC
Executive Director Madelin Holtkamp at <mailto:rredc at northcoast.com
<mailto:rredc at northcoast.com%3Erredc at northcoast.com> >rredc at northcoast.com
or 445-9651 (no later than 12/20/07) to let her know (you are) willing and
able to support our efforts.
>
>Finally, thanks for your support of this important effort to connect our
region to the rest of the world.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ END
>
>
>
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