[RTC List] The Rob & Cherie Arkley Fiberoptic Cable
Arkley, Rob
RArkley at snsc.com
Fri Oct 12 09:57:36 PDT 2007
Dear Michael,
Sorry Michael, but the Headwaters Fund is for just this type of
thing. Look at its charter.
Michael, it sounds a though you have a negative impression of me
even though we have never met. SN will have its own solution with a
month regardless of what anybody else does. I spent $10,000 for a
consultant to get this done for the community even though SN would never
use it.
Basically, the HAF has done nothing. The Headwaters
Fund/Supervisors has done nothing. I have spent some money for a
solution even though there would be no benefit for SN.
As for your comment regarding the use of my money and naming
opportunity, I respectfully say "pass."
Why don't YOU do something to fix it? It is clear that you are a
very thoughtful and "can do" person. It took lots of those qualities to
write your letter.
vty,
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Welch [mailto:mwelch at redwoodalliance.org]
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:33 AM
To: Arkley, Rob; Jonathan Speaker; CrawfordCA at aol.com;
list at redwoodtech.org
Cc: Fuller, Shirley; letters at times-standard.com;
news at arcataeye.com
Subject: The Rob & Cherie Arkley Fiberoptic Cable
It's not the Supes job to do this. This benefits private
industry, and private industry should cover it.
What a perfect application for your huge amount of wealth. You
could even name it The Arkley Cable.
Arkley, Rob wrote at 05:46 AM 10/12/2007:
Dear All,
This outage was a disaster for SN. We lost a day.
The supes are able to change TPZ zoning in a weekend, yet they do
NOTHING on this. I don't get it.
I hate litigation against big
companies/quasi-governmental entities on novel theories. I seriously
doubt if they have any liability.
Can't we get somebody with reason to listen to us
and just fix this? It is a no-brainer. What about just forming a group
and doing it ourselves?
Shirley, what is happening with our consultant? We
paid her and don't have squat to show. Ask for her to complete her job
or get our money back. I will sue her.
vty,
Rob
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From: Jonathan Speaker [ mailto:jspeaker at streamguys.com
<mailto:jspeaker at streamguys.com> ]
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:20 AM
To: CrawfordCA at aol.com; list at redwoodtech.org
Subject: RE: [RTC List] [2] AT&T DSL Outage?
Welly welly welly well Chris if you want to get serious,
then I would suggest a lawsuit. I would agree with the googled list and
the gripes that those of us have no other option to do. Take the 500,000
dollars that was just awarded to the RTC/HAF and hire some lawyers..
havent we done enough studies?
Sue our area providers for failure to deliver a product
and redundancy, sue for lost revenue - sean makes excellent points- ,
sue for failure to provide emergency back up, and sue the companies that
keep cutting our fibre lines with the back hoes, sue caltrans for hiring
those contractors...and sue the county for failure to support a critical
infrastructure and sitting on their collective arses.
we could be the first rural county to sue for access and
emergency connectivity.
how about slapping the county commissioners around or
local representatives, who troll this list, to make them understand
fibre is the same as bridges and roads, seaports and airports...
...otherwise, you can put together another 'write
letters to the editor, call your local reps, and continue this cry of
outrage'
As for those that NEED to continue to do business in
this situation, the stop gaps are whats going to keep those of us doing
business, doing business. since we need to keep working regardless of
the infrastructure the county and providers are not providing for us.
And get yourself a generator folks.
if I had a better knowledge of the legal system (which
seems to be one of your core competencies) this is a path I would
evaluate, any attorneys out there?
-jonathan
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Admittedly, I'm rather a "lurker" on this list . . . .
but I am damned glad that THIS ONE really seems to have everyone's
dander up.
99% of my clients are out of the area, so I definitely
got hurt today . . . . but I think one subject that really deserves
attention in a big way that isn't getting it is the inability to process
credit/debit card transactions when this happens.
There are many ramifications here, and they are probably
larger than the loses those of us who depend upon the Internet ( not to
mention long distance phone & cell ) to operate have incurred -- what of
all of the businesses locally who can't do sales because folks can't use
their "electric money"?
For example, how much did Humboldt Merchant Services
lose today over local businesses not being able to process?
How much did big boxes like Target, KMart, & Costco
Wholesale lose? Did Verizon and Sprint lose money because folks couldn't
go over their allotted hours this month or rack up "per use" charges,
etc.? Shouldn't they be interested in throwing some of their weight in
on this?
Frankly, my wife and I have become so accustomed to this
that we don't even bother to go to the bank or the grocery store or
anywhere else when this happens. Of course, much of this will be made up
for tomorrow, but how much won't be? For example, we won't be going to
the grocery store tomorrow to buy what we were going to by, because we
just dug into the freeze and the cupboards to find something. Business
lost for a grocer there.
And what about those deadliners out there who meant to
pay some bill online on time today, but couldn't and now got smacked
with a late fee? Those late fees also must trickle out of spending that
would contribute to this economy locally.
Did local "day traders" lose money or fail to make money
because they couldn't trade? Even in a county this size, there must be
some losses here to the local economy.
Any real estate deals didn't close today?
Has anyone on this list lost a prospect or a client
because of these issues? Probably not a major issue here, but every
dollar lost here is a dollar not working for this local economy.
The issues here are MUCH larger than the techie/IT
interests of the RTC, really; they probably concern most of all of the
businesses and business in this area.
As for me, fortunately I run a "virtual" office, and I'm
the only one stuck in these situations, so it's not like my whole
business is stopped because of it . . . . but, even just these 4 days of
cut fiber issues since last Christmas are enough to make me relocate to
Portland. I can't take it any more. I'm sure there are others who are
seriously weighing whether they should hang in there and wait, or
relocate to somewhere with redundancy. In all honestly, this isn't the
only reason I'm relocating ( air faire would be another major issue, as
well as opportunities for my wife who can't find much in the way of that
here ), but this issue has to have folks thinking about whether they
really want to relocate TO here ( as we did several years ago ) or about
whether they want to relocate FROM here ( as we are doing now ). None of
this could be at all good for the local economy.
It saddens me because I came here with an ethic of
bringing money INTO this economy form outside, but now I'm just going to
have to take that to Portland. But before I go, I'm completely on board
with any serious measures to put pressure on ANY of the "powers that be"
to rally absolutely everyone to the cause of getting some redundancy up
in here ( and I really think we need to "think outside the box" in terms
of getting folks who aren't as Internet-dependent as we all are to see
how it is affecting them and get them on board with the cause ).
All the best,
-- Sean
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From: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org [
mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org
<mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org> ] On Behalf Of CrawfordCA at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 2:04 PM
To: list at redwoodtech.org
Subject: Re: [RTC List] [2] AT&T DSL Outage?
The fiber connection was lost today. The airport (where
I was flying out to Baltimore) was issuing hand written boarding passes
and luggage routing slips. Cell phones couldn't reach outside the area
and most lines when I tried to call in from SFO connect to a recording
announcing "technical difficulties." Oddly, one or two lines into the
area actually worked.
Let's use this as a rallying cry to accelerate redundant
fiber. This is NOT an option. Hughstat, satellite, dial-up and other
back-ups cannot sustain the whole community. This is serious stuff.
Thank goodness the airport learned a few manual workarounds this time or
else connection to air traffic and weather would have grounded all
flights. Our hospitals, first responders and a lot more rely on
connectivity to operate.
Let's "git 'er done."
Chris Crawford
www.justiceserved.com
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In a message dated 10/9/2007 1:27:38 P.M. Pacific
Daylight Time, jspeaker at streamguys.com writes:
Hughsat is keeping our team working. Strongly
suggest it as a stopgap for
those companies that need to stay up for their
clients outside the area, or
here locally.
-jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org [
mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org
<mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org> ] On
Behalf Of Jim Scott
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:11 PM
To: List at redwoodtech.org
Subject: [RTC List] AT&T DSL Outage?
AT&T DSL service has been out in Cutten since
approximately 9 a.m.
this morning. I'm using AT&T's backup dialup
service to post this, so POTS
is still working. Anyone else lose DSL this
morning?
Jim Scott
The above is the opinion of Michael Welch, and not that of his
employer or any organization that he volunteers for.
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