[RTC List] Microsoft Small Business Summit 14th-16th

Wed Oct 15 09:45:58 PDT 2008

It started yesterday but i thought i would send out the link:

http://www.microsoft.com/smallbusiness/summit/default.aspx

Rob BeckerditeBeckerdite Consulting

> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:05:55 -0700> From: nox.freak at gmail.com> To: vantek at humboldtonline.com> CC: list at redwoodtech.org> Subject: Re: [RTC List] Suddenlink performance the last 5 days> > William,> > Thanks for clearing that up.> > As for the trace route it is still in there network> The hop that has given me the most problems is hop 5 witch is> (sjoeosr03-10gex1-1.pac.sta.suddenlink.net - 66.76.175.34)> > -Winter> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:35 PM, William Van Hefner> <vantek at humboldtonline.com> wrote:> > Winter,> >> > If the timeouts begin somewhere beyond Suddenlink, it would seem as the> > problem is with their underlying provider or perhaps somewhere upstream> > from them. If you'd like to post a traceroute copy, I'm sure that there> > are plenty of people on the list who could interpret it.> >> > As for AT&T, they most certainly do own all of the fiber that goes in/out> > of Humboldt County. However, as a licensed public utility, AT&T can not> > legally refuse to sell capacity to Suddenlink if it has it available (it> > does). That type of discrimination would land them in court really fast. I> > don't believe that AT&T is anywhere near capacity right now, as I've never> > had a single carrier or reseller tell me that they couldn't sell me> > service here due to capacity issues. That happened routinely before the> > current fiber route was installed. Any Joe Blow with $400-$500 a month to> > spend can buy a T1 around here with no problem whatsoever. If I can buy> > capacity that easily, there's no reason why Suddenlink shouldn't be able> > to.> >> >> >> > --> > William Van Hefner> > President> >> > Vantek Communications, Inc.> > e-mail: vantek at humboldtonline.com> >> >> > On Tue, October 14, 2008 3:35 pm, Winter Faulk wrote:> >> The trace routes show that the drops are about 4 hopes outside of my> >> network. It goes from being 10+/-ms to being 200-600ms.> >>> >> As for the AT&T problem it was what Suddenlinks tech support was> >> telling some people, but I was also under the impression that AT&T owned> >> the hardware on both sides of the fiber if not the fiber and therefor you> >> had to lease your connection through them or through someone that already> >> is leasing the connection from AT&T.> >>> >> -Winter> >>> >>> >> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 2:30 PM, William Van Hefner> >> <vantek at humboldtonline.com> wrote:> >>> >>> Just a guess here, as I don't use Suddenlink, but do you have any way> >>> of checking the number of packet errors and/or timeouts? Are some of the> >>> pings never completed at all? A traceroute would probably be a lot> >>> more revealing than a simple ping test.> >>>> >>> As for the line about AT&T refusing to sell Suddenlink more capacity,> >>> that's BS. It may have been true before they installed the fiberoptic> >>> link into Humboldt County, but it certainly isn't the case now. Besides,> >>> it's not like you have to go through AT&T directly to buy high-capacity> >>> Internet access, anyway. I highly doubt that Suddenlink even uses AT&T> >>> as their datacomm provider, as they are generally more expensive to get> >>> service from than others. There are dozens of ISPs, CLECs, carriers and> >>> resellers who will be glad to sell you as much capacity as you want> >>> around here. A lot of them will bundle phone service with capacities of> >>> a T1 or higher as well.> >>>> >>>> >>> William Van Hefner> >>> President> >>>> >>>> >>> Vantek Communications, Inc.> >>> vantek at humboldtonline.com> >>>> >>>> >>> On Tue, October 14, 2008 2:08 pm, John Hauser wrote:> >>>> >>>> i don't pay attention to ping times but i do have snmpd enabled on my> >>>> home router and graph my network traffic with mrtg through the> >>>> suddenlink connection.> >>>>> >>>> in the past week, i haven't gotten more than about 60% of normal> >>>> speeds and usually less than half of what i normally get. as winter> >>>> indicated, it's been about 3-4 weeks since i've gotten a solid> >>>> 1280kB/s download> >>>> speed. Another indicator is that off-site backup jobs (data incoming> >>>> to me) that used to take 30-45 minutes in the early hours of the> >>>> morning have been taking at least twice as long as they used to to> >>>> finish. So it's not just an after school/after dinner/"everybody> >>>> jumping on the cable 'net at the same time" phenomenon like used to> >>>> occur in the bay area.> >>>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Winter Faulk <nox.freak at gmail.com>> >>>> wrote:> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Its been about three weeks for me. Mid last week it started to get> >>>>> better.> >>>>>> >>>>> The ping times were really bad after about 4-5pm jump from 40ms to> >>>>> 200-600ms. From what I have heard Suddenlink is having two problems,> >>>>> one AT&T will not sell them any more bandwidth (this is what they> >>>>> have told people on the phone), two they are having problems with> >>>>> some of there hardware (This is from a tech, not form support)> >>>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:33 PM, robert beckerdite> >>>>> <robert at beckerdite.com> wrote:> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Has anyone else seen strange/bad performance from Suddenlink over> >>>>>> the> >>>>>>> >>>>> last 5> >>>>>> or so working days? I have two customers that are having real> >>>>>> trouble> >>>>>>> >>>>> with> >>>>>> connections and both are connecting through Suddenlink.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks,> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Rob Beckerdite> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 20:49:48 -0700> >>>>>>> From: bob at morsemedia.net> >>>>>>> To: list at redwoodtech.org> >>>>>>> Subject: [RTC List] Thursday's Meeting: EAST!> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please mark your calendars and plan to attend this month's RTC> >>>>>>> meeting Thursday, October 9th, at 5:30 pm at the Humboldt Area> >>>>>>> Foundation's> >>>>>>> Conference Room, 373 Indianola Rd.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The featured presentation will be students from Eureka High> >>>>>>> School's> >>>>>>> EAST Lab. 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For more information,> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________> >>>>>>> List mailing list> >>>>>>> List at redwoodtech.org> >>>>>>> http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________> >>>>>> Use Messenger to talk to your IM friends, even those on Yahoo!> >>>>>> Talk> >>>>>> now! _______________________________________________ List mailing> >>>>>> list List at redwoodtech.org> >>>>>> http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> --> >>>>> Thank you,> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> +================+> >>>>> Winter Faulk> >>>>> nox.freak at gmail.com http://down-time.com +================+> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> "But I, being poor, have only my dreams;> >>>>> I have spread my dreams under your feet;> >>>>> Tread softly because you tread on my dreams."> >>>>> -William Butler Yeats> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________> >>>>> List mailing list> >>>>> List at redwoodtech.org> >>>>> http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________> >>>> List mailing list> >>>> List at redwoodtech.org> >>>> http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________> >>> List mailing list> >>> List at redwoodtech.org> >>> http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> --> >> Thank you,> >>> >>> >> +================+> >> Winter Faulk> >> nox.freak at gmail.com http://down-time.com> >> +================+> >>> >>> >> "But I, being poor, have only my dreams;> >> I have spread my dreams under your feet;> >> Tread softly because you tread on my dreams."> >> -William Butler Yeats> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> List mailing list> >> List at redwoodtech.org> >> http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > List mailing list> > List at redwoodtech.org> > http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org> >> > > > -- > Thank you,> > +================+> Winter Faulk> nox.freak at gmail.com> http://down-time.com> +================+> > "But I, being poor, have only my dreams;> I have spread my dreams under your feet;> Tread softly because you tread on my dreams."> -William Butler Yeats> > _______________________________________________> List mailing list> List at redwoodtech.org> http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org
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