[RTC List] spam from Commercial Radio & Electronics

Thu Jul 30 12:30:18 PDT 2009

Mr, Blanchard,

You transmitted your advertising to 
'mike-redwoodtech at tiedyenetworks.com', which is a specially crafted 
email address I use _only_ for posting to the rtc list, and tracking 
replies and spam to the source. This positively confirms that you 
learned of my address in connection to the rtc list and from no other 
source, case closed.

I have used this technique for many, many years now as a way of tracking 
where any particualr piece of email may have learned of my contact 
information, and have hundreds of these crafted addresses in use today. 
And occasionally when one crafted address being to attract too much 
junk, I simply retire it and no longer receive any mail on it at all.  
Although this is an unusual feature unavailable to casual or moderate 
email users, it's a critial component of my overall communications 
capability and one I use to high effectiveness.

I have never transacted business with you and your claim otherwise gives 
me great pause. I can accept that someone else populated your mailing 
list for you, but to come right out and claim that we transacted 
business is, well, dissapointing in the extreme. For public consumption, 
I now present the proof in the form of message headers that show you 
transmitting this to 'mike-redwoodtech at tiedyenetworks.com'.

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:52:42 -0700
From: "Commercial Radio & Electronics" <rick at cre-powerpage.com>
Reply-To: "" <rick at cre-powerpage.com>
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Subject: :SPAM: August Newsletter
To: " " <mike-redwoodtech at tiedyenetworks.com>

Rick Blanchard wrote:
> Mike and the rest of RTC, This is Rick Blanchard from Commercial Radio 
> & Electronics. I did not send my company newsletter to the group and 
> Mike, I sent it to our customers, NOT the RTC List. My records have 
> you as a former customer and I sent out our newsletter to my 
> customers. I have removed you from the list Mike, and I am sorry you 
> had to send this to some fraud list. I have Mikes email form previous 
> business related work. We are a company which some people only 
> recognize under CRE, Comradio, Commercial Radio, Power Page. I do not 
> purchase email account info nor do I sale them, I am a small business 
> owner who has been receiving requests from my customers and decided to 
> comply, Sorry for your inconvenience. I am also an RTC member and 
> would not use the list as a resource for sending a newsletter about my 
> business.
>  
> Thank you,
>  
> Rick Blanchard
>  
> www.cre-powerpage.com <http://www.cre-powerpage.com>
> Comradio, Inc.
> 2416 Broadway, Eureka, Ca. 95501
> Tel. (800)92-RADIO (800-927-2346)
> Alt.Tel. (707)445-9661
> Fax. (707)445-9518
> FCC License: PG00005123
> CA Contractors License: 505485
> California Certified Small Business: 3290
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* William Van Hefner <mailto:vantek at humboldtonline.com>
>     *To:* list at redwoodtech.org <mailto:list at redwoodtech.org>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:44 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: [RTC List] spam from Commercial Radio & Electronics
>
>     I've been on the list for quite awhile, and I didn't receive
>     anything from
>     them.
>
>     Just out of curiousity, who is YOUR upstream provider? If it's AT&T,
>     Suddenlink, etc., I wouldn't put it beyond them to have sold your
>     address.
>     Same goes for your wireless provider. If you have AT&T residential
>     DSL,
>     look very carefully at your agreement. You pretty much give up all
>     rights
>     of any type of phone or data privacy when you sign-up with them.
>     That can
>     do whatever they want to with the data they collect about you,
>     especially
>     if you are crazy enough to install their spyware... er, I mean,
>     installation software. :-)
>
>     -- 
>     William Van Hefner
>     President - Vantek Communications, Inc.
>     http://www.humboldtonline.com
>     e-mail: editor at humboldtonline.com <mailto:editor at humboldtonline.com>
>
>
>
>     On Thu, July 30, 2009 11:23 am, Mike wrote:
>     > Hey list,
>     >
>     > I've just received a commercial advertisement from "Commercial
>     Radio &
>     > Electronics" of Eureka, Ca. I have proof that what they did was
>     to troll
>     > the RTC list and assemble a list of email addresses of people
>     who posted
>     > here. Simply seeing my email address in public, or buying a list of
>     > 'targeted email addresses' from a spam gang, does not grant you
>     > permission to send me advertisements, and it is well established law
>     > that unsolicited commercial email = spam and is a violation of
>     most, if
>     > not all, ISP terms of service. I am following up now with their
>     upstream
>     > isp and will advocate to have them disconnected for this
>     violation of
>     > the att terms of service, and I encourage others who also
>     received this
>     > junkmail to do likewise. Forward your spam from commercial radio and
>     > electronics to abuse at sbcglobal.net <mailto:abuse at sbcglobal.net>.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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