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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The size of PST files is a major issue
here at The Sun Valley Group. The fact the entire comment is emailed to
all in the List is wasteful of both up bandwidth and disc storage. Would
not the List be better served by sending a brief message stating that one of us
has posted a message/comment with and a brief statement (subject) of the
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list-bounces@redwoodtech.org [mailto:list-bounces@redwoodtech.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dwight Winegar<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 17, 2008
8:28 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> list@redwoodtech.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RTC List]
Limitations of e-mail lists</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Once again with the following comments below we are reminded of the
limitations of e-mail lists for communications vs. the superiority that
Bulletin Boards (BBS) once provided. In the days before Internet browsers
connecting us with the world for information we were much more readily
available to true local and regional information and discussion. Today's Wikis
and Blogs do not readily or easily do the same job as a GUI (desktop folder
based) BBS. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On a second point the limitations of discussion on a list-service are
also not necessarily in the best interests of community reflection. <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Humboldt</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">County</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> has some truly diverse opinions,
often of the extremes, and while some people may also attempt to be more vocal
on extremist fringes in some of our communities, we have in the past invited
"roundtable" discussion for the formulations of policy. Such was the
format of the Economic Development Forum, which later became the Prosperity
forum, crafting the Prosperity Document, from whence ultimately came the seeds
for RTC and other "clusters" of the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">North</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Coast</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
economy. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>As someone who has moderated other online groups, and currently a
couple of mail lists as well, I find there are some people who believe in
absolutely "no censorship" (in their terminology). This I would have
to disagree with. There are limits, both in "netiquette" as well as
staying on-topic relative to the objectives of the list. As such, some
moderators have also created separate lists known as "off-topic." To
relegate discussion with such black and white choices is surely limiting of
true participation and well-rounded diversity of reflection. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Therefore I'm of the opinion that our local communities and North Coast
Redwood Region are in need of "technology" that provides more
potentials for communication, news, reflection on important civic topics,
including but not limited to the defined realms of our Economic Development
Clusters (of which Technology and RTC) is one part. So, with regards to Rob's
comment below that we should "stay focused" I would quite agree, if
we were experiencing extreme digress from the topic or organization's goals. At
the same time, we may be truly limiting communication, participation, diversity
of views, and the knowledge in this "information age" of Technology,
not to mention the potential for flooding e-mailboxes by the limitations of one
listserve as our communications venue. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>- Dwight Winegar <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 17 Jan 2008, at 03:40, Arkley, Rob wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0;word-spacing:0px'>Dear All,</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I think that Aaron may be well
intentioned, but his input goes way beyond what I feel that Redwood Technology
should go I its input. Mr. Atrim also has a advocacy piece about the Bay and it
is future. Needless to say, he and I agree on little. However, we should all
agree that we need more telecom and IT service.</span></font><font size=1
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Mr. Antrim's suggestions below are at best
growth prohibiting and simply go far beyond the real issues that I believe that
our group has in mind. Let's stay focused on our goal and not become broadly
advocacy based with the exception of issues directly in our charge. If we don't
stay focused, we will lose our emphasis and power which a broad based and
coalition has. </span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I don't want to start a huge and vitriolic
e mail chain, but rather stay focused on our real goals, which are far more
limited and surgical in nature than the below comments suggest. I am convinced
that if we stay focused and surgical, we will have much more likelihood of
success.</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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