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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Pat, I agree. That's why I said that my message was
"slightly tangential" to what Chris actually asked about. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But I wonder how many people, in the article's words "Don't
settle on just one."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I myself purchased and use both Symantec and eEye Blink on my
personal machine. Each has its strengths. I also use some web
privacy tools, such as the TrackMeNot search obfuscator add-on in Firefox.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Pat Bitton
[mailto:pat_bitton@eurestopartners.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 08, 2008 2:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'John McBrearty'; list@redwoodtech.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [RTC List] Choice of antivirus protection<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Interesting approach - however, most of the virus and other
malware problems occur because users *don't know* when software is
questionable - or because the infection/hack happens without any user
interaction - so it's debatable how useful such a service would be in the
real world.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Pat Bitton</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Partner, Euresto Partners Inc</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Sales & Marketing Strategies for Technology Startups</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>+1 707 268 8968/+1 408 464 0829 cell</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
href="http://www.eurestopartners.com/">www.eurestopartners.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> list-bounces@redwoodtech.org
[mailto:list-bounces@redwoodtech.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John McBrearty<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 08, 2008 1:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> list@redwoodtech.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RTC List] Choice of antivirus protection</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chris,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>A somewhat belated (and slightly tangential) response to your
query, but I happened to see this today in a newsletter from the Chronicle of
Higher Education:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:6.0pt'><span style='color:black'><a
href="http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/index.php?id=3231&utm_source=wc&utm_medium=en"><b>Hey,
Virus, Get Off of My Cloud</b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-right:6.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Having a hard time
choosing which antivirus program to use? Researchers at the University of
Michigan have a suggestion: Don't settle on just one. Computer scientists at
the institution have developed a new service, called <a
href="http://www.eecs.umich.edu/fjgroup/cloudav/">CloudAV,</a> that lets
computer users send questionable software off to a separate server--where a
dozen antivirus programs and behavioral-detection tools decide whether the
material is safe or corrupted. CloudAV takes its name from "cloud
computing," a term used loosely to describe technology services conducted
through an online network, not through software native to a particular user's
machine. Why rely on the cloud if you've already got an antivirus tool sitting
on your own computer? Well, as <a
href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080807-outsourcing-av-researchers-move-antivirus-scan-to-the-cloud.html">Ars
Technica</a> points out, virus-blockers use different methods to pick up on new
malware, so "the best software on one day may not hold the title on the
next." A typical antivirus program, acting by itself, might let plenty of
malicious software slip through the cracks, but CloudAV spotted 98 percent of
the viruses submitted to it, the researchers say.<em>--Brock Read</em><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
list-bounces@redwoodtech.org [mailto:list-bounces@redwoodtech.org] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>CrawfordCA@aol.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> list@redwoodtech.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RTC List] Choice of antivirus protection<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Greetings
all ...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I'd
like to start a thread about different choices for antivirus protection on your
Windows-based desktop or laptop computers. Long ago, I used Norton (from
Symantec), then I switched to McAfee for a number of years, and now I'm looking
for a better replacement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>To
get things rolling, I wrote a blog posting on this topic in May when I
dumped McAfee and went shopping for substitute protection:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://www.tsblogs.com/techblog/2008/05/shopping_for_antivirus_softwar.html">http://www.tsblogs.com/techblog/2008/05/shopping_for_antivirus_softwar.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I
am currently using a trial version of Microsoft's Live OneCare, that has too
many flaws to keep as a long term solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Any
tips or recommendations are welcome, except for gratuitous gloating over having
chosen Mac or Linux over the evil empire (Microsoft). Thanks for your
consideration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Chris
Crawford<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://www.justiceserved.com">www.justiceserved.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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